Him & Her & Our Time

Charlie Kirk & The First Amendment

Him & Her Season 4 Episode 25

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Another week, another first amendment fight is going on in the US.  What are your thoughts on the Jimmy Kimmel suspension and subsequent reinstatement?  Do you think it violates his 1st amendment right to free speech?

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That's him.

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And that's her.

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And this is our time.

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Join us with a cup of coffee, maybe a bloody Mary, or even a glass of wine. As we chat about the adventures, the encounters, and all-around chaos of our life.

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Hello. Happy day. Happy day.

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Happy day to you too. What a week. What a week. Goodness.

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I feel like we say that every week.

SPEAKER_00:

It has been like that every week. It's been crazy every week.

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Right. It's craziness in the US of A. Um. First of all, can we start about how when Trump was at the UN?

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Oh my gosh, yes.

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Let's see here. The escalator broke.

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Right as he right as Melania stepped on with her heels. And him. I mean, and it had worked for everybody else right before that. Right. And the one right next to him was working. It was going up, and theirs was going up, and then right when they got on it, it just stopped. And they had to walk the rest of the way. And then what and then the um the microphone was very turned down low, and the person that was just before him had full volume and everything, and it was turned down low, and then his teleprompters went off when they were working fine for the person before.

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Which surprises me that he even uses a teleprompter.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, he has to so he can stay on point. You know what I mean?

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No, I don't know what you mean because he doesn't ever stay on point. And he always just, you know, goes off rail. So I figure he doesn't use it. I mean, he probably has a teleprompter for, you know, the main points. But then he just goes off and says whatever he wants to say whenever he wants to say it. He's got no filter.

SPEAKER_00:

No, but it I mean, I just thought that was ridiculous that all that took place, them just trying to trying to go against what the United States is standing for, you know. And then I mean, and then we had to deal with the whole Jimmy Kimmel thing, which I mean, I'm sorry, but y if you are an employee of a company and you are costing that company money, I mean, revenue, the whole bit, then you need to be fired. And that's exactly why Jimmy Kimmel was canned, his show was canned because for a week. Right, but it was not going to because of what it was losing money. And then they caved and it allowed him to come back. I mean, it's not freedom of speech. That was not the issue. They wanted to make it that issue. They wanted to say that that's what it was because, but it was actually because the same thing with Corbert, because the ratings were down on their show, because they're losing money, you know, and they just I I just don't understand it. What are your thoughts on it?

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Well, I think uh originally he was, you know, putting time out because of what he said about Charlie Kirk.

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Right.

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Um so I think originally that's what it was. And again, it's it had nothing to do with freedom of speech. Yes, you are free to say anything you want without fear of prosecution.

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Right.

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But you're not free from the consequences of your speech.

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Absolutely.

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And so so many people obviously called their local ABC affiliates complaining about what they heard, and you know, com so the the affiliates pulled it. Went to ABC and said, you know, we're not gonna air it.

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We're not gonna air a show.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So it's you know, I mean it's and and I don't know if I mentioned this last time, but you know, people 30 years ago, comedians, you know, and I say that very loosely, would would not say the horrible, awful things that Jimmy Kimmel has been saying. You know, Johnny Carson never, you know, he made fun of. And there's a there's a difference between making fun of and then saying horrible, awful things. And I'm saying both sides are doing it.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. Well, I mean, my whole thing is a talk show, I mean, like a a an evening talk show or just a talk show should be equal to both sides. You know what I mean? Should not be leaning just one way and and and saying everything just one one-sided. I mean, it should be neutral, it should be a neutral uh property that allows both sides or both people or different opinions to come on and talk and you know and and say what they want to say. But all these late-night talk shows have completely gone away from that. It is not uh, you know, an actual talk show. It is this is my opinion, and you're gonna listen to it because you're watching my show. You know?

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I wonder what happens if people go to sit in the audience of the Jimmy Kimmel show and he starts bashing Trump or bashing Republicans and someone in the audience like booze him or something.

SPEAKER_00:

I wonder if they like I don't think they let him in, honey. I really don't. I do not think that they let them in. You know how it was when we were trying to get tickets to go to a any of those shows and to be seen, and they have to, you know, pick and choose. Just like going to Good Morning America when we went to that, you know. We were what fifth in line, sixth in line, and we got the crappiest seats where we were where we were sitting, which I mean is just ridiculous. There goes our little children.

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Mm-hmm. It's not time to eat.

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No, it's not. But you know, that's the that's the thing. I think they I think that they screen and find out, you know, you get your name because they have to give you tickets. You gotta give them your name. And then it would not surprise me if they don't go on Facebook, if they don't go on Instagram, if they don't look up who you are and and where you're what you represent, and then oh, you're not getting tickets, or you're you're you know, you're not getting in, or we're gonna put you in a bad spot.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, if they went and looked at my Facebook or my Instagram, they would just see Bible verses. Right, which that's pretty much all I post anymore.

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Which would not get us on Jimmy Kimmel because he does not talk about God at all. I mean, he is completely against it. You know, completely against religion.

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Did I ever tell you that um I had a uh semi-boss at work several years ago tell me that she thinks I shouldn't post so much religion and Bible stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah, I remember you telling me that. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I was like, hmm. She goes, you might turn off some people. I'm like, you know what? That's a huge part of who I am. Right.

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And you know what? If I turn them off, hey, I don't need them around.

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Exactly. If they don't, yeah, if they don't want to do business with me because I post a Bible verse. Oh well.

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Right, exactly.

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I don't want to do business with them.

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Exactly. Exactly.

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And if you're anything, you're probably doing something sneaky.

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And if you're gonna try to tell me I can't do something on my own private time in my own private life as a as a a boss, then I've got issues with you. Right.

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Well she she didn't do that. She just said, I wouldn't do that. I'm like, well, I'm not sure.

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Well that's telling you, that's telling you to be watch what you're saying, and then there throws out the the freedom of speech. You know? I mean it's the same thing with Charlie Kirk. He had freedom of speech. He was able to talk his opinion and have other people communicate their opinion and try to prove him wrong and him, you know, try to prove them wrong. But I mean, why should he be killed over it? Why should he be shot over it? I mean, it's just ridiculous. You know, and and look at all look at all the stuff that is happening right now. It's like there's shootings happening every single day. You know?

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Have you do you listen?

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I know you don't watch anything. No, I don't watch anything. No.

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But I mean, you're on YouTube a lot.

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No, I'm not on that, not not that kind of YouTube.

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I mean, have you listened to Candace Owens? Do you know who Candace Owens is?

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No.

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Okay.

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No.

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So she is a conservative commentator. Um, I don't necessarily know that she was on any uh news shows. Um, but she is I don't know, you need to look you need to look her up. She's a big conspiracy theorist. She she does a like a YouTube podcast thing like Megan Kelly does.

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Okay. Um I like Megan Kelly.

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So and well, Megan Kelly's kind of drinking the Kool-Aid that Candace Owens is talking about.

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Oh, okay.

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Candace Owens has been saying that there's a conspiracy and Charlie Kirk was not killed by that 22-year-old. Um, and she's a conservative, so it's not like she's, you know, you know, left-wing crazy. She's right wing crazy. But she she she's like done videos where she is slowed down and she says that she thinks that the bullet has come from below him, and there was a uh like a manhole cover type thing that was below the stage that the bullet came up from, and now that's all been and I I did I did see that they have now like concreted over the entire stage where he was at. Like they've, you know. So I don't know if there was a manhole thing there or not. But she says this, you know, this 22-year-old kid has, you know, 100% proclaiming his innocence.

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And then why was he on the roof? Why did he come run why did he come running after the shot was done? Why did he come running away? Why did he jump down? Why did he have a gun sitting right there? Why is his fingerprints on the gun where it was hidden by the tree? I mean, that's the problem with conspiracy theorists. They don't think about everything. If you and I hate it, but I d I didn't expect to watch the video, but it popped up when when I was, you know, there and it just kind of but if you watch how he falls back to the left, there's no way a bullet coming from the bottom would cause him to to go back and to the left. It would cause him, if it came up from the bottom, it would cause him to go up into his seat and fall backwards, not go to the left and backwards like it, like it did from shooting him in the neck and coming from the angle that that that that kid was at. I mean, there's no there's that's the thing. I mean, they have footage of him running from the from the um rooftop.

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They have footage of somebody running from the rooftop, yes. They don't have any clear well, they have not shown us clear footage that it is this person. And they have said that his fingerprints were on that gun.

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And on the bullets.

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They've said that.

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They did forensics on it.

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Well, yes, but again, if it's a conspiracy thing like JFK, I mean, who all's involved? I I'm just throwing a different thing out there. I'm just talking points.

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Right. I understand. I understand, but that's the problem that happens with our world is we can't just accept the visual and the things that are there. We have to add things, we have to tweak stuff, we have to, we have to, you know, come up with our own thoughts and process on certain things, and that's just I mean, whatever. Whatever. I'm not if that's what if that's what she's dealing with and that's her conspiracy theory, then I won't be paying attention to that. Because I don't that just I don't believe in that crap. I mean, especially when they have the DNA and all that stuff. And I mean, what are we supposed to believe? If they say they have it and and they're they're showing that they have it, I mean, I'm I'm not the doctor, I'm not right there looking at the report, so I have to take a a word about it. You know? I mean, what's how's she gonna prove? How's she gonna prove her theory? You know?

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I mean I don't know.

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It just the whole thing is just wrong.

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You know, there's so much stuff that I'm I'm okay with just being ignorant about and not knowing. You know, exactly you know, I don't want to know what all the government knows and is hiding from us. No, well, I mean not not not just not not saying this, but in general.

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Well, the thing that got me is it was a blip on the on the news before all the Charlie Kirk and everything else happened, but there was a in I guess it was uh at a a hearing or whatever, but there was an admiral stating that we had just shot down a UFO, a tic-tac. We had just shot it out of the sky, and you didn't hear anything else abore more about it. I didn't hear that at all. Yeah, I mean that that popped up. I mean it came up on the news, and then it was and then it was like didn't hear another thing about it. Which that, you know, gets me. It's like we just had a uh I think it was a Tomahawk missile that actually took it out of the out of the sky. They were able to to lock onto it and shot it out of the sky, and they said it came up out of the water, and they, you know, and all this stuff, and then you don't hear anything about it.

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I don't like it. I don't like it when people say when when big things happen, what is the government trying to distract us from?

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What are they trying to hide? Right, exactly.

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I mean like by by you saying that, there are some people who will probably say, Well, they made this Charlie Kirk assassination happen to take us away from that UFO story. There I'm sure there are some people who would say that.

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I'm sure they would. Right.

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So I don't I don't like again. But I mean I'm I'm happy to be ignorant about a lot of the stuff.

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Right.

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Does it affect me today here in my little house living with you and the animals and going to work every day? No. So I'm I'm fine, you know.

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But I mean down the road, who knows?

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You know like the whole show 24 to think if all that stuff happens, like do we have a Jack Bauer in our country? God hope we do.

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I hope we have a couple of them.

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But if we have a Jack Bauer in our country who like literally saves us from the brink of destruction.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And we know nothing about it.

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Right.

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I'm totally fine with that.

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Yeah, until it hits us on the front door. Until it shows up on our front doorstep. But yeah, it's we we need to get up. But I mean it's the same thing like with this Kimmel, this, you know, Kimmel thing. You know, I mean, that could have been a distraction, you know, who knows? But yes, I agree. We need to get a bunker. We need to get some land so that we can build an underground bunker just to be safe, you know, and just to be able to live off the grid.

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What was that movie we watched with Neil McDonough?

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Um Homestead.

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Homestead.

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And it was a it was a movie, but then they made it into a TV show. So it has two seasons on it. But you know, we haven't watched it. Well, you have to have Angel TV. You have to get you have to get a special a special um what is it? Uh subscription. Subscription to a a different a different thing.

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Which people, it is that time of the year again where we are going through our bills and our finances to say what do we need? Do we need all of this? Do we need Disney? Do we need Hulu? Do we need Peacock?

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Do we need Peacock?

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Do we need all of these things?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, yeah, but I mean you start coming down to it like we need Amazon Prime, we need to do it. You know, because that that comes with, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, does the does Prime TV come with our Amazon Prime subscription?

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Yeah.

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Okay, well then we've already got it.

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But you don't have the extra stuff, you know, that comes with it. You know, like Hulu. We decided to get rid of cable, you know, like Time Warner and and Direct TV and Dish Network and all that to go to having local channels, right? Right. We went to we got rid of that to have local channels, and so that we could have local channels while we're traveling or while we're, you know, out and about. And that's where Hulu, you know, live TV comes in, Hulu Plus with live TV. I mean you could do you could do the the YouTube, you know, live TV, but I don't I I mean that's just a thing that that gets me is all that expression.

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I mean there's so much I mean every single thing has their own streaming service, you know, and you know, in Paramount, and uh it just there's all sorts of things and what do we need? Right. I mean, can we can we if we got rid of it, could we watch it the next day on if we didn't have you know the live TV, could we watch it the next day on something?

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I d I mean I d I not all the things that we watch. Right. I mean, seriously, not all the things that we watch. I mean, so you're talking about you're talking about your you know the today show in the morning, you wouldn't be able to watch that at all. You wouldn't be able to watch it at all. They have clips, they have little clips, they don't do a whole a whole episode.

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Like, could I like Google it and put it on TV and watch it? No.

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Okay, well I mean that's the thing I'm saying, you know.

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I just miss the days when we had four stations.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't miss I don't miss those days because it's you know technology has advanced, but it is definitely like gotten to the point where there's just so much to have to keep track of. And I mean, half the time I forget like what sh what station we're or what uh streaming service we're watching what show on.

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Remember we had to have a cheat sheet next to our next to our chair in the living room for the longest time? I know because we're like what crazy we don't know what it's on.

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We have no idea.

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But I remember you were flipping through or it was on oh it was on the Today show last week. They were saying that um you were talking about technology is coming so much. A lot of car manufacturers are reversing and not having and and putting buttons back in their cars. So it's not like touching like actual buttons dials and buttons and not touch screen. Exactly. Because first of all, once it breaks, it's so expensive to fix the stuff.

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Oh, I know, and and one thing breaks, and you have to you have to replace so much more. And for me, I mean I start thinking about if I can't touch a dial or if I can't touch a knob, I mean, AI can take over. AI can take over our cars. You know, which don't get me started on AI.

SPEAKER_02:

And if it's me, it's technology, it's gonna break and not work.

SPEAKER_00:

That's true. That's true. Because it just doesn't work. It doesn't work with you. You have some kind of aura about you that technology just maybe magnetic fries on itself. I just need to stick you in a Faraday cage.

SPEAKER_02:

A what?

SPEAKER_00:

A Faraday cage. What is that? It's a cage that has wiring and stuff all around it that protects from EMFs, it protects from outside electrical currents and things like that. You put you put like if you're gonna have a cell phone and all bubble wrap ain't gonna do anything. Especially if I roll you down a hill, you're gonna pop all the bubbles and then you're gonna be it'll keep me comfortable. But then you're gonna have plastic plastic on you. I mean, what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_02:

It'll keep me uh busy. I'm gonna sit there and pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.

SPEAKER_00:

Goodness, I swear. Yeah, I can see you and bubble wrap and hear you coming a mile away. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_02:

I like the sensory.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. It makes me but then it but then it the sensory disappears and then you're stuck with not anything wrapped around you but plastic.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, our animals are calling to us, so we need to wrap it up.

SPEAKER_00:

Time to eat.

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Yes, thank you. Well, that was him.

SPEAKER_00:

And that was her, and this was our time.

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Bye, babe. Bye, hun.